Logic and spirituality aren't mutually-exclusive. People who claim that spiritual people are illogical or irrational are themselves being illogical and irrational.
A full defence of this won't fit in a comment box. :o)
hm, interesting video. it doesnt stick though, personal experience is overwhelming and enough evidence. I guess the only way of "proving spiritual matters" is by each and everyone trying themself. That way misunderstandings stay out of the way! If it is absolute truth, then it will prove itself. Awk, thanks for posting the video though! I have a philsophy essay due, and it gave me some ideas! =)
Irrational if they claim that it is fact, because by definition of fact it’s not!
It’s about forcing people to believe what you believe, without evidence…which is sort of forceful, especially if their experience in life has been different than yours.
Yet again, faith is quite irrational scientific, (though psychologically sort of makes sense)…I guess religion and science will always clash…
"logic...source of understanding and loss of thought."
Totally untrue. Logic is the art of using thought to interpret and understand ideas. This requires thought. On the other hand lets use a word like:
Faith- Blindly Accepting and following idea for simple fact that one cannot accept the unexplained and not knowing and thus attributes it to a higher power. Its ok to say 'I dont know' but how many people will? Not many...
'Personal experience is overwhelming enough evidence'
This is a somewhat blindly made comment. Id like to point out BF Skinners pigeon expiriment:
Pigeons were isolated in cages and given food at random. The pigeons concocted elaborate rituals thinking this was why they were being fed (Food was coming totally randomly) one pigeon spun round in circles thinking this was how it got food.
The point is, the spinning was personal experience and thus evidence for the pigeon. Personal experience is not very good evidence as it only supports one point of view...
"Do you know what a cipher is? well there all kind of ciphers, but a cipher can be represented by a circle, which consists of 360 degrees...a circle...and my cipher keeps moving like a rolling stone...my cipher represents myself, or the atoms in my body, and the rolling stone represents the earth. The atoms of the body rotate at the same rate on the same axis that the earth rotates, giving us a direct connection with the place we live called earth...so on&on&on&on my cipher keeps rolling like a rolling stone" -Erykah Badu
Uhm i hate this part...i never have the right words or end up missing out alot of other equally important aspects about me! So why dont you figure out who i am as opposed to me telling you, that way we both happy!!
:-D
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1 am? wtf?
anyway, downloading video.
Logic and spirituality aren't mutually-exclusive. People who claim that spiritual people are illogical or irrational are themselves being illogical and irrational.
A full defence of this won't fit in a comment box. :o)
logic...source of understanding and loss of thought.
hm, interesting video. it doesnt stick though, personal experience is overwhelming and enough evidence. I guess the only way of "proving spiritual matters" is by each and everyone trying themself. That way misunderstandings stay out of the way! If it is absolute truth, then it will prove itself.
Awk, thanks for posting the video though! I have a philsophy essay due, and it gave me some ideas! =)
Irrational if they claim that it is fact, because by definition of fact it’s not!
It’s about forcing people to believe what you believe, without evidence…which is sort of forceful, especially if their experience in life has been different than yours.
Yet again, faith is quite irrational scientific, (though psychologically sort of makes sense)…I guess religion and science will always clash…
"logic...source of understanding and loss of thought."
Totally untrue. Logic is the art of using thought to interpret and understand ideas. This requires thought. On the other hand lets use a word like:
Faith- Blindly Accepting and following idea for simple fact that one cannot accept the unexplained and not knowing and thus attributes it to a higher power. Its ok to say 'I dont know' but how many people will? Not many...
'Personal experience is overwhelming enough evidence'
This is a somewhat blindly made comment. Id like to point out BF Skinners pigeon expiriment:
Pigeons were isolated in cages and given food at random. The pigeons concocted elaborate rituals thinking this was why they were being fed (Food was coming totally randomly) one pigeon spun round in circles thinking this was how it got food.
The point is, the spinning was personal experience and thus evidence for the pigeon. Personal experience is not very good evidence as it only supports one point of view...
@ Eizzy. Science can be used to support religion if applied correctly... The dont have to clash...
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